symfony project

[thunderMex]

Has anybody taken a look at this open source project for implementing Ajax? This is a whole library of functions including testing, debugging tools. For PHP5 and any kind of database. In my ignorance, perhaps, it seems that OR would be a natural for conversion to this model. In fact, it seems like "porting" existing OR functions in this framework might ultimately speed up development for new features in OR's future.

Functionality is contained in modules.

It natively supports CVS and Subversion for Source Versioning.

Symfony takes the best of configuration files and gets rid of the worst ones. As a matter of fact, the ambition of the configuration system in symfony is to be:

Powerful: almost every aspect that can be managed using configuration files is managed using configuration files
Simple: many aspects of configuration are not shown in a normal application, since they rarely need to be changed
Easy: configuration files are easy to read, to modify and to create by the final user (the application developer)
Customizable: the default configuration language is YAML, but it can be INI or XML or whatever the preference is
Fast: the configuration files are never processed by the application but by the configuration system, which compiles them into a fast-processing chunk of code for the PHP server

http://www.symfony-project.com/content/about.html
another important page to read:
http://www.symfony-project.com/content/book/page/configuration.html

[ebmarques]

thunderMex, thanks! I will love to see this thread with a lot of posts.
I thought JOOMLA was going to YAML in next version (1.1), but as far I could see, won't.
Anyone here can say more and better about it?
I could bet that XML was(is?) going to "take the world", but...?

Eduardo.

[frobn]

Has anybody taken a look at this open source project for implementing Ajax? ...Good post. There is no doubt that the next generation websites will have more interactive features powered by Ajax and other xml technologies. If I were a programmer I would be actively pursuing them. I would like to see OR move in this direction but I think it would need many additional contributors that it now has.

[the_sandking]

Actually, Ryan has been discussing adding AJAX to some of the administration areas of OR for a while now. You will likely see it in a future release.

[frobn]

Actually, Ryan has been discussing adding AJAX to some of the administration areas of OR for a while now. You will likely see it in a future release.That is welcome news but I think that ThunderMex was referring to an YAML OR and if that is the track Ryan is on then it is even better news.

[thunderMex]

Since you brought up YAML (pronounced like "camel") Here are two paragraphs from http://yaml.org/spec/current.html.

YAML is primarily a data serialization language. XML was designed to be backwards compatible with the Standard Generalized Markup Language (SGML) and thus had many design constraints placed on it that YAML does not share. Inheriting SGML's legacy, XML is designed to support structured documentation, where YAML is more closely targeted at data structures and messaging. Where XML is a pioneer in many domains, YAML is the result of lessons learned from XML and other technologies.

There are hundreds of different languages for programming, but only a handful of languages for storing and transferring data. Even though its potential is virtually boundless, YAML was specifically created to work well for common use cases such as: configuration files, log files, interprocess messaging, cross-language data sharing, object persistence and debugging of complex data structures. When data is easy to view and understand, programming becomes a simpler task.

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At any rate, I found symfony impressive, (although I am not a programmer)..and Open Source....the package is already quite developed, downloadable, and with some reading it looks like it would be very understandable for developers like Ryan, Mick, et al.

Yeah, yeah....sheesh! Rack your brains learning to exploit one technology and they keep coming up with new "hot" languages that are even "better".

However, that this works so well as a development toolbox with most necessary modules already built-in, basically the very things OR does....C.R.U.D.
Create-- INSERT INTO
Retrieve --SELECT
Update --UPDATE
Delete --DELETE

and in PHP5 tapping mysql or sql....well, it looks cool....

I can only imagine that for someone with a LOT of properties and a website that gets a fair amount of traffic the AJAX functionality could make a significant performance enhancement and cut down on bandwidth usage for each search, etc.

[frobn]

Thanks for expanding on YAML


I can only imagine that for someone with a LOT of properties and a website that gets a fair amount of traffic the AJAX functionality could make a significant performance enhancement and cut down on bandwidth usage for each search, etc.This is a major problem. I am a vocal advocate of OR in many forums but I am not blind to its limitations. As listings increase, especially over 5000, bandwidth and cpu usage increase dramatically and loading slows noticably.

[ebmarques]

Have you guys seen this: http://www.backbase.com ?
It stupefied me!

Eduardo.